Carrying a Gun—A Little Extreme, Don't You Think?

[iceman]

Not true. I was way younger and dumber then. Now I pay a lot more attention and I could have avoided the incident with no gun needed. Hopefully, live and learn.
edit: and you two can go fuck yourselves

If the guy somehow gets the drop on you he takes your money and your gun before you can get the gun out or you reach for it and he blasts you and takes your money and your gun. A distant third in that situation is you get the gun out and blast him.

[TAFKALVS]

A distant third in that situation is you get the gun out and blast him.

It's not impossible. there are plenty of security cam videos on youtube showing such a feat.

[iceman]

I don't think it's impossible, just not common.

[PNWbrit]

How much cash are you guys carrying that'd be worth shooting someone for?

[TAFKALVS]

I don't think it's impossible, just not common.

I can draw a handgun from concealment and put 2 rounds each on 6 12" steel plates at 10 yards in 9-11 seconds depending on the day. I have a hard time believing I'm much better than average, some of my co-workers can do that in 7-8 seconds.

I don't think that it's preposterous that an average person with adequate training could defend themselves with a handgun if the need should arise. Training is key. Buying the gun is the easy part. If you don't put in the range time and ponder the seriousness of what you're doing, don't bother.

[TAFKALVS]

How much cash are you guys carrying that'd be worth shooting someone for?

No amount of cash is worth killing someone over.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

I can draw a handgun from concealment and put 2 rounds each on 6 12" steel plates at 10 yards in 9-11 seconds depending on the day. I have a hard time believing I'm much better than average, some of my co-workers can do that in 7-8 seconds.

I don't think that it's preposterous that an average person with adequate training could defend themselves with a handgun if the need should arise. Training is key. Buying the gun is the easy part. If you don't put in the range time and ponder the seriousness of what you're doing, don't bother.

Do you think that you could draw, shoot and incapacitate someone that is pointing a gun at you before they could shoot you?

[PNWbrit]

No amount of cash is worth killing someone over.

Someone mentioned having been robbed at gunpoint...

[TAFKALVS]

Do you think that you could draw, shoot and incapacitate someone that is pointing a gun at you before they could shoot you?

I don't know to be honest. I would hope so, but that's why I spend hours upon hours practicing. The shot timer says yes, but real life is different. I ponder that question a lot, actually. I hope (and pray) I have the personal awareness to avoid that situation entirely.

[TAFKALVS]

Someone mentioned having been robbed at gunpoint...

Doesn't having a gun pointed at you change the situation from simple robbery?

[PNWbrit]

Doesn't having a gun pointed at you change the situation from simple robbery?

Trying to point your own gun back at them almost certainly does?

Was just wondering what he was robbed of that'd be worth killing someone for?

[sb]

Most people defeat themselves before they ever get to that situation.

As someone once said it's a matter of being willing.

[Bobby Stainless]

How much cash are you guys carrying that'd be worth shooting someone for?

CO medical and recreation biz is all cash. You should see the security details that take cash from the shops. My electrician just put in a security system for a couple down in Pueblo (growers) that were robbed a gunpoint. Wife got her face smashed by the butt of a shotgun. Gang.

Not everyone lives the same life, so blanket statements never work. Like "No one needs to carry" or "Everyone needs a gun".

[riser4]

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[riser4]

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[TAFKALVS]

Is that statement from personal experience, or just something you say so people will wonder?

Nope, I was stating an observation about friends who have been shot at overseas and have come back, who now roll around everywhere with full kit like they're still in bumfuckistan. They view life through a very different, much more extreme lense than me.

I have zero combat experience and was never in the military nor have I ever claimed to be. Sorry if you read my somewhat sarcastic post otherwise.

Also, I don't even own an ar15 so I'm not a true gun owner. And I don't want a plate carrier.

[snoqpass]

All necessary gun fighting knowledge can be found here
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[Conundrum]

I'd like to think if I'm sober I won't put myself in a position around people to need to carry a gun for protection and the rest of the time I'm too drunk to be carrying a gun. So about half the time I'm making good decisions and the other half I'm making at least one good decision.

[Al Gore-Tex]

No amount of cash is worth killing someone over.

Agreed, unless someone tries to steal it, then you kill them.

[sb]

Also, I don't even own an ar15 so I'm not a true gun owner. And I don't want a plate carrier.

A standard AR 55gr round drills holes in 1/4 plates out to 100+yds. Those 3/8 plates start to get heavy and sloe u down. They have saved lives.

If you own one gun, no matter what kind, you are a gun owner and thus have great responcibility to yourself and others.

If you have not been downrange its hard to understand. Security blankets are hard to give up.

[TBS]

I can draw a handgun from concealment and put 2 rounds each on 6 12" steel plates at 10 yards in 9-11 seconds depending on the day. I have a hard time believing I'm much better than average, some of my co-workers can do that in 7-8 seconds.

Wonder how you would do if you didn't get a chance to be calm and loose before you start the exercise and those steel plates were shooting back...

[Ottime]

Just a quick correction to the premise. Weapons were invented to hunt, not equalize. Otherwise, spot on.

[Shredhead]

The guy on the ground doesn't have any money, but the guy with the gun is still trying to shoot him in the head.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Are you saying that you "have been downrange" Scottyb?

I would be interesting to hear the answer. I have and don't carry.

[sb]

yep